The Veto

The Democrats should know that Bush would veto the war bill with a deadline attached. Do they have a 2/3 majority to override the veto? Given just a small majority of Democrats in congress I think we won't have 2/3 needed for override. We just would go on with quagmire until Bush is out of office.

Democrats should anticipate the veto. If there isn't a override, all that work was useless. What else can they do if the override does not happen?

Look folks it has been more than 4 years since the "War on Terror" started, actually, more than 4 years since the pre-mature "Mission Accomplished" show. No it is not accomplished. It is still a mess. This conflict is longer than our past conflicts with WWi or WWII or the civil war, and there is no end in sight.
There should be an end, and the Democrats wanted an end which they can mark on a calendar.

I am no military strategist. But wars should not have a deadline attached. As Bush indicated, the deadline would be the enemies celebration of our defeat. If there is a withdrawal, it should be IMMEDIATE withdrawal. But we can't continuously wasting money and precious lives in fighting a war in vain indefinitely either. There isn't WMD, there is just the Iraqi endless Sunni vs Shittes violence.

This is a very difficult situation: we can't really just pack and go (we will face humiliation of defeat), and we can't stay indefinitely. We don't even have a clear enemy.

Military should avoid insurgents and invisible enemies. How many times have we seen insurgents winning a well-equipped military? You don't have to turn history book too far back. Just look at Vietnam. Perhaps you can flip further to see the American Revolution defeat the now best-friend British.

What's our mission objective now? maintain peace? You can't maintain peace when you go kill their people in their land. These guys want revenge. These guys don't have food, don't have jobs, all they have is a will to keep foreigners out, and they are willing to suicide bomb. Perhaps can we rebuild their villages, build schools and hospitals and do them some good instead? Waita minute, we aren't even doing that in New Orleans?